Correcting Others

[Guest seacam]

I'm a relatively new forum member but find the site immensely useful and have received some good advise.

 

I have noticed from some members their inability to stop correcting other users grammar.

 

While some may think it funny or useful and lets be honest, grammar and spelling is not at its best on this forum and I include myself as one of the worst offenders, this correcting of others is both patronising and insulting, especially where the contents of the thread and its meaning is clear for all to see, does it really matter that a . , ' " " ? is not in place.

 

Next, will members stop asking others to stop typing in upper case just to make a point, there are good reasons why some people type in upper case and not always clear to us and frankly does it really matter?

 

Why should somebody who does so feel awkward in using this or any other forum because they type in upper case and risk offending someones idea of etiquette.

 

One of the things that makes this forum enjoyable are the different contributors sense of humour, one line replies and banter, I won't name them but their funny, witty and can have me rolling and I hope that never ends.

 

There is never a bad time or place for humour I accept that but if there is one thing that irks me more is when you have a member who as an issue with their vehicle and turns towards this forum for advise and in return they receive an inane response.

 

It's more then likely in any case their question has been answered had they done a search but this site is not the most intuitive to use, it's good of members to point or inform others that there is a barn load of information on the subject already.

 

However in other cases a members question might, from their perspective, be so extremely important they spend sometime typing it, willing/hoping for an answer to then find someone has posted a one line gag with a " sorry", how frustrating, disheartening and annoying.

 

It's not my intention to appear like an old fart or a kill joy, I'm sure some of you know what I'm on about.

 

Some members have taken the time and the effort to post some great photos on subjects, I for one find this so useful, it doesn't matter if the subject, ( photo's ), are repeated, ( not to often ), I just wish more members would do so instead of just writing what they have done although I accept this will never change and not everyone has a digital camera,----yet.

[sepulchrave]

...It's advice, not 'advise'. :o

[Guest seacam]

...It's advice, not 'advise'. :o

 

I know. :lol:

[Guest blatters]

sorry.... :o

[gregers]

sO u ShOuD b :lol: :lol:

[anadin]

i agree with everything seacam has said , and the sooner he's back in goal for england the better :lol: sorry

[El Dingo]

Don't you mean Neddy Seagoon? Wasn't he the goalie for England?

[sepulchrave]

Nah, he won the Kentucky Derby...Spiderman was his jockey.

 

(Mod is this thread really in the right place? :lol: )

[Guest seacam]

Nah, he won the Kentucky Derby...Spiderman was his jockey.

 

(Mod is this thread really in the right place? :lol: )

 

Hello,

 

I see the point you're making but why does it matter so much to you where the thread is?

[sepulchrave]

"Hello,

 

I see the point you're making but why does it matter so much to you where the thread is?"

 

Because those of us who have laboured to accumulate technical knowledge and are prepared to share it with complete strangers without any thanks or reward (altruism), get thouroughly p****d off (fed up) with those who spent more than ten years in state education and learnt absolutely b****r all (nothing)!

 

How can you expect an answer to a question if you can't even be bothered to communicate the problem using your native tongue?

 

There is a worldwide convention on the internet called netiquette, many millions of people over the years have evolved this system and we all use it. Overcapitalisation is a no-no, IT'S SHOUTING.

 

Leetspeak (1f u n0 w07 1 |\/|34n) is for pubescent would-be hackers/gamers and has no place here (I'll thrash any of you at CoD anyday, BTW :lol: ).

 

If someone can be bothered to ask a relevant and intelligible question then anyone on this forum who has a clue will understand and bend over backwards to help, if they can't be a****d (bothered) then neither should we! :lol:

[teresa]

"Hello,

 

I see the point you're making but why does it matter so much to you where the thread is?"

 

Because those of us who have laboured to accumulate technical knowledge and are prepared to share it with complete strangers without any thanks or reward (altruism), get thouroughly p****d off (fed up) with those who spent more than ten years in state education and learnt absolutely b****r all (nothing)!

 

How can you expect an answer to a question if you can't even be bothered to communicate the problem using your native tongue?

 

There is a worldwide convention on the internet called netiquette, many millions of people over the years have evolved this system and we all use it. Overcapitalisation is a no-no, IT'S SHOUTING.

 

Leetspeak (1f u n0 w07 1 |\/|34n) is for pubescent would-be hackers/gamers and has no place here (I'll thrash any of you at CoD anyday, BTW :( ).

 

If someone can be bothered to ask a relevant and intelligible question then anyone on this forum who has a clue will understand and bend over backwards to help, if they can't be a****d (bothered) then neither should we! :(

 

well ya defo lost me :lol: :lol:

[Bigjeeze]

Horses for courses - As long as the person asking the question is genuinely in need of an answer - does it really matter about "netiquette"? If they are not intent on spoiling or damaging or otherwise buggering up the site - whats the big deal?. I agree that everyone should abide by the largely unwritten rules but if they don't know what they are it is too easy to fall foul of them.

 

Perhaps a thread on netiquette can be inserted by the MODS - something along the lines of "before posting please read and understand the rules of the site" .

[sepulchrave]

...fairy nuff, there's always room for humour here. :lol:

 

But should this thread actually be here?

[Guest VR6!]

you mean this sort of thing? and who exactly would enforce these? if suttle hints are made to offending members, the ahh dont be nasty brigade pop up and back up the offender or they get made a site mod :lol:

 

POWER-POSTING

 

Power-posting is when board members post 'empty' messages to the board, in order to simply increase their number of posts more quickly. Examples of power-posting are replying to a message with only 'LOL' or 'I agree', but failing to contribute anything further to the discussion. If you reply to a message, make sure you have something to say. Power posting clutters up the forums, clutters up the 'new posts' function, and uses extra bandwidth and server space. While we don't mind people using bandwidth to chat usefully on the board, we do mind people using it just because they want a more impressive 'post counter'. If you're not sure if you're power-posting, take a moment and think it over before you post. If all your post contains is a 'LOL' or an emoticon, it's a power-post. If it adds something to the discussion, it isn't

 

KEEP ON TOPIC

 

Do try and keep to the topic of the thread. If you want to raise a new issue then consider whether a new topic is more appropriate.

 

Don't try to build your post count with "welcomes" or by replying to every comment in an Off Topic thread you start. Nobody likes that and we're hip to what you are doing anyway.

 

Please use standard size font when posting. All caps or large or small fonts or all bold or italic is not only hard to read, it's generally considered poor forum etiquette. For example, all caps is considered the equivalent of YELLING.

 

If you don't know the answer to a posted problem or have nothing intelligent or helpful to contribute, please don't post in that thread. Unlike other "similar" support sites, we pride ourselves on trying to "get it right" the first time and to avoid answers such as: reformat (that may prove to be the only solution, but it won't be the first option we suggest unless it's clearly the only logical choice). Our primary goal is to help, not to further confuse

 

Make your questions (and responses) as clear and intelligible as possible. If English is your native language then please use punctuation and well structured sentences to whatever extent possible. It is easier to read and understand your problem (and solution) if it's.... well, if it's easier to read. If English is not your native language, then just do the best you can. We'll figure it out. Keep the questions short and to the point, avoiding "stories" as much as possible.

Avoid "chat lingo" & shorthand for the same reason as above. Some of us find it easier to read actual words and sentences than to try to figure out what SMS abbreviations stand for.

[Guest seacam]

"Hello,

 

I see the point you're making but why does it matter so much to you where the thread is?"

 

Because those of us who have laboured to accumulate technical knowledge and are prepared to share it with complete strangers without any thanks or reward (altruism), get thouroughly p****d off (fed up) with those who spent more than ten years in state education and learnt absolutely b****r all (nothing)!

 

How can you expect an answer to a question if you can't even be bothered to communicate the problem using your native tongue?

 

There is a worldwide convention on the internet called netiquette, many millions of people over the years have evolved this system and we all use it. Overcapitalisation is a no-no, IT'S SHOUTING.

 

Leetspeak (1f u n0 w07 1 |\/|34n) is for pubescent would-be hackers/gamers and has no place here (I'll thrash any of you at CoD anyday, BTW :lol: ).

 

If someone can be bothered to ask a relevant and intelligible question then anyone on this forum who has a clue will understand and bend over backwards to help, if they can't be a****d (bothered) then neither should we! B)

 

Hello Sepulchrave,

 

So the technical labour that you have accumulated over ten years prevents you from putting other members quotes in quote boxes, if that's the technical term to use, not that it bothers me, hang on, of course you did that on purpose, correct? ;)

 

Further, you have completely deliberately or otherwise misunderstood my thread or have you?, no I got it, your sounding off.

 

I wasn't writing about text speak or illegible threads, more when the meaning is perfectly clear and yet members can't resist correcting or posting missing .,? and what you find irrelevant others may not, if you find some threads beneath you in answering, let 'em go.

 

I to find text speak annoying and rarely, if ever, use it.

 

Overcapitalisation is a no-no, IT'S SHOUTING.

 

One of my children has a sight problem and when using a PC uses upper case, I hope he never meets anyone on a forum whose arrogant belief in ones technical ability prevents him/her from taking their head out and thinking for just a moment, there might be a reason for a members UPPER CASE thread.

 

However the question remains, why where the placing of this thread bother you or anyone so much?, maybe it shouldn't be here, it's not a big deal, I wasn't sure where to place it and the Mods will move it as they see fit.

 

Bigjeese makes some fair points in his thread.

[Guest gooner52]

ok i agree :lol: ;) B)

[Guest seacam]

ok i agree :lol: ;) B)

 

 

Hello Gooner,

 

With?

[Guest gooner52]

hi seacam

 

????? sorry

[Guest seacam]

Hello VR6,

 

I never knew that's what power posting was, although I've seen the term written.

 

My only contention with your reply is in replying to other posts, if a member writes " don't agree " and doesn't elaborate, then yes a waste of time, effort and space.

 

But members like to show support to others and they might genuinly agree with what written but can add nothing more or have no wish to because the thread or reply says everything for them at that moment.

 

I know I post " I agree " or a smiley sometimes but will name the member it is intended for, I can assure this forum I'm not power posting-----or am I anyway?----I'm not interested in my ratings, I just enjoy the site.

[Guest gooner52]

seacam

 

your point of views are very true m8 :lol:

 

the so called power posting topic as been brought up a few times in the past

 

and i would of thought ,it will crop up again

 

take it easy m8

 

j

 

;) B)

[Guest seacam]

seacam

 

your point of views are very true m8 :lol:

 

the so called power posting topic as been brought up a few times in the past

 

and i would of thought ,it will crop up again

 

take it easy m8

 

j

 

:16: ;)

 

Thanks Gooner

 

Goodnight B)

[mumof4]

However the question remains, why where the placing of this thread bother you or anyone so much?, maybe it shouldn't be here, it's not a big deal, I wasn't sure where to place it and the Mods will move it as they see fit.

 

 

 

I moved this thread last night.Im surprised none of you noticed. B) :lol:

 

Marian

[Dave-G]

Maybe we ought to have a "correcting others section" :lol:

[Guest HairyPlateEater]

What I've found of this forum, over time, is that "generally" the amount of technical knowledge a member has is directly proportional to the amount of sarcasm used and the lack of social skills employed when dealing with people not conforming to unwritten netiquette. There are obviously exceptions to this rule, and maybe its just that the mechanically minded have more bad days than the rest of us? On the whole I don't think it's an issue though and understand that different people have different levels of command of the English language and adjust myself as necessary. VR6's post contains good guidelines though, but can only see that if this is put into the forum rules and regs that it would give the "Speak English and STOP SHOUTING" flamer brigade even more excuse to treat "newbs" with the disrespect they don't deserve :lol: B)

[Bigjeeze]

However the question remains, why where the placing of this thread bother you or anyone so much?, maybe it shouldn't be here, it's not a big deal, I wasn't sure where to place it and the Mods will move it as they see fit.

 

 

 

I moved this thread last night.Im surprised none of you noticed. ;) :lol:

 

Marian

 

 

Oooh you're such a sneaky so & so!! B)